Jim Traber Forum: Hey Dock lets talk jobs part 2

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Originally posted by dockbumper5

Again, I am not trying to justify anything. I simply stated FACTS! 

We've agreed with your facts. 

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boomerjake Big League Joined: 22 April 2009 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 4303	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 12:51pm
	*Originally posted by dockbumper5* Again, I am not trying to justify anything. I simply stated FACTS! We've agreed with your facts.
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2510	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 12:52pm
	Note to myelf. jake believes anything that is not current is irrelevant............got it!
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2510	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 12:55pm
	*Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* Again, I am not trying to justify anything. I simply stated FACTS! We've agreed with your facts. And I agreed with the fact Annie posted.......your defense/excuse/labeling irrelevant the failures of Republicans is what caused this mess. Edited by dockbumper5 - 07 May 2010 at 12:56pm
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Annie Ultimate Joined: 02 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17542	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:00pm
	*Originally posted by dockbumper5* Again, I am not trying to justify anything. I simply stated FACTS! was there something other than "Bush did it" that you stated? I may have missed it. Is that the "fact"? Being the optimist, let me try this one other way: How is "Bush did it" pertinent to the current situation of Obama and Congress adding jobs in an economic downturn?
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2510	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:01pm
	In an attempt to answer Annie.....Bush grew the size of govt/spent recklessly, so has Obama. This Dem Congress is guilty of the same, just like the last Rep. Congress.....Now why is this relevant? Because to simply just vote out Dems will not change a thing, imo. Both parties have proven identical on fiscal issues the past decade. IMO, we need to put immigration, amnesty, abortion, etc on the back burner and work on fiscal issures. Neither party is doing that. Edited by dockbumper5 - 07 May 2010 at 1:02pm
	It is impossible to defeat an ignorant woman in an argument.-dockbumper5, truck driver and fiscal conservative(1960-present)
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Annie Ultimate Joined: 02 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17542	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:02pm
	*Originally posted by dockbumper5* Note to myelf. jake believes anything that is not current is irrelevant............got it! Do you really think that is what he said?
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2510	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:03pm
	*Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* Note to myelf. jake believes anything that is not current is irrelevant............got it! Do you really think that is what he said? Absolutely.....he has repeated it over and over.
	It is impossible to defeat an ignorant woman in an argument.-dockbumper5, truck driver and fiscal conservative(1960-present)
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Annie Ultimate Joined: 02 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17542	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:13pm
	*Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* Note to myelf. jake believes anything that is not current is irrelevant............got it! Do you really think that is what he said? Absolutely.....he has repeated it over and over. Looks like you have misconstrued what I have said and what Jake has said and are determined to tell us that it is you who know what we mean. Such is often the case when attempting to discuss with you. Congratulations! You have once again steered a topic into a irrelevant off topic discussion. You have exercised your pointing finger and are in fine shape for those personal accusation. Time for me to cease abetting................. Edited by Annie - 07 May 2010 at 1:14pm
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2510	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:17pm
	*Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* Note to myelf. jake believes anything that is not current is irrelevant............got it! Do you really think that is what he said? Absolutely.....he has repeated it over and over. Looks like you have misconstrued what I have said and what Jake has said and are determined to tell us that it is you who know what we mean. Such is often the case when attempting to discuss with you. Congratulations! You have once again steered a topic into a irrelevant off topic discussion. You have exercised your pointing finger and are in fine shape for those personal accusation. Time for me to cease abetting................. Ok, and imo, you have shown yourself to be a partisan hack.
	It is impossible to defeat an ignorant woman in an argument.-dockbumper5, truck driver and fiscal conservative(1960-present)
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Annie Ultimate Joined: 02 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17542	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:20pm
	*Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* Note to myelf. jake believes anything that is not current is irrelevant............got it! Do you really think that is what he said? Absolutely.....he has repeated it over and over. Looks like you have misconstrued what I have said and what Jake has said and are determined to tell us that it is you who know what we mean. Such is often the case when attempting to discuss with you. Congratulations! You have once again steered a topic into a irrelevant off topic discussion. You have exercised your pointing finger and are in fine shape for those personal accusation. Time for me to cease abetting................. Ok, and imo, you have shown yourself to be a partisan hack. How have I shown myself to be a partisan hack?
	“If you don’t know where you are going, any road will get you there.” ― Lewis Carroll
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2510	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:28pm
	*Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* Note to myelf. jake believes anything that is not current is irrelevant............got it! Do you really think that is what he said? Absolutely.....he has repeated it over and over. Looks like you have misconstrued what I have said and what Jake has said and are determined to tell us that it is you who know what we mean. Such is often the case when attempting to discuss with you. Congratulations! You have once again steered a topic into a irrelevant off topic discussion. You have exercised your pointing finger and are in fine shape for those personal accusation. Time for me to cease abetting................. Ok, and imo, you have shown yourself to be a partisan hack. How have I shown myself to be a partisan hack? By having a problem with me pointing out a fact about the previous adm......... I had no problem with you stating that under the current adm/Congress that govt would not shrink. I simply state the same could be said about the previous adm/Republican Congress.......Both are true statements, end of story in my book......But you and jake seem to have a problem with facts, if they involve Republicans.
	It is impossible to defeat an ignorant woman in an argument.-dockbumper5, truck driver and fiscal conservative(1960-present)
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boomerjake Big League Joined: 22 April 2009 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 4303	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:34pm
	*Originally posted by dockbumper5* In an attempt to answer Annie.....Bush grew the size of govt/spent recklessly, so has Obama. This Dem Congress is guilty of the same, just like the last Rep. Congress.....Now why is this relevant? Because to simply just vote out Dems will not change a thing, imo. Both parties have proven identical on fiscal issues the past decade. IMO, we need to put immigration, amnesty, abortion, etc on the back burner and work on fiscal issures. Neither party is doing that. If you follow national politics then you would realize your statement is a fallacy. There is a reason many have been attracted to the Tea Parties’ fiscal concerns. Because of grass root activists like this, a change is taking place in much of the Republican party, and eventually if successful, in some of the Democrat party as well. Unfortunately for you, you’re still stuck in 06 and have failed to see this.
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boomerjake Big League Joined: 22 April 2009 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 4303	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:37pm
	*Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* Note to myelf. jake believes anything that is not current is irrelevant............got it! Do you really think that is what he said? Absolutely.....he has repeated it over and over. Looks like you have misconstrued what I have said and what Jake has said and are determined to tell us that it is you who know what we mean. Such is often the case when attempting to discuss with you. Congratulations! You have once again steered a topic into a irrelevant off topic discussion. You have exercised your pointing finger and are in fine shape for those personal accusation. Time for me to cease abetting................. Ok, and imo, you have shown yourself to be a partisan hack. How have I shown myself to be a partisan hack? By having a problem with me pointing out a fact about the previous adm......... I had no problem with you stating that under the current adm/Congress that govt would not shrink. I simply state the same could be said about the previous adm/Republican Congress.......Both are true statements, end of story in my book......But you and jake seem to have a problem with facts, if they involve Republicans. What part of WE AGREE do you NOT understand???
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2510	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:38pm
	*Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* In an attempt to answer Annie.....Bush grew the size of govt/spent recklessly, so has Obama. This Dem Congress is guilty of the same, just like the last Rep. Congress.....Now why is this relevant? Because to simply just vote out Dems will not change a thing, imo. Both parties have proven identical on fiscal issues the past decade. IMO, we need to put immigration, amnesty, abortion, etc on the back burner and work on fiscal issures. Neither party is doing that. If you follow national politics then you would realize your statement is a fallacy. There is a reason many have been attracted to the Tea Parties’ fiscal concerns. Because of grass root activists like this, a change is taking place in much of the Republican party, and eventually if successful, in some of the Democrat party as well. Unfortunately for you, you’re still stuck in 06 and have failed to see this. If the Tea Party is concerned about fiscal issues, why are they backing Hayworth? McCain, along with Coburn, are the most fiscally conservative Senators that have ever served. McCain was against Prescritption Drugs for Seniors(because it was unfunded and added to the national debt)while Hayworth supported it......
	It is impossible to defeat an ignorant woman in an argument.-dockbumper5, truck driver and fiscal conservative(1960-present)
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boomerjake Big League Joined: 22 April 2009 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 4303	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:42pm
	*Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* In an attempt to answer Annie.....Bush grew the size of govt/spent recklessly, so has Obama. This Dem Congress is guilty of the same, just like the last Rep. Congress.....Now why is this relevant? Because to simply just vote out Dems will not change a thing, imo. Both parties have proven identical on fiscal issues the past decade. IMO, we need to put immigration, amnesty, abortion, etc on the back burner and work on fiscal issures. Neither party is doing that. If you follow national politics then you would realize your statement is a fallacy. There is a reason many have been attracted to the Tea Parties’ fiscal concerns. Because of grass root activists like this, a change is taking place in much of the Republican party, and eventually if successful, in some of the Democrat party as well. Unfortunately for you, you’re still stuck in 06 and have failed to see this. If the Tea Party is concerned about fiscal issues, why are they backing Hayworth? McCain, along with Coburn, are the most fiscally conservative Senators that have ever served. McCain was against Prescritption Drugs for Seniors(because it was unfunded and added to the national debt)while Hayworth supported it...... It’s my understanding they didn’t back Hayworth. And the Tea Party is not one group acting in concert.
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2510	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:43pm
	*Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* Note to myelf. jake believes anything that is not current is irrelevant............got it! Do you really think that is what he said? Absolutely.....he has repeated it over and over. Looks like you have misconstrued what I have said and what Jake has said and are determined to tell us that it is you who know what we mean. Such is often the case when attempting to discuss with you. Congratulations! You have once again steered a topic into a irrelevant off topic discussion. You have exercised your pointing finger and are in fine shape for those personal accusation. Time for me to cease abetting................. Ok, and imo, you have shown yourself to be a partisan hack. How have I shown myself to be a partisan hack? By having a problem with me pointing out a fact about the previous adm......... I had no problem with you stating that under the current adm/Congress that govt would not shrink. I simply state the same could be said about the previous adm/Republican Congress.......Both are true statements, end of story in my book......But you and jake seem to have a problem with facts, if they involve Republicans. What part of WE AGREE do you NOT understand??? Then why label Republican facts irrelevant......You did not see me labeling Democrat facts irrelevant....You act like the Bush adm/Republican congress served a century ago.....
	It is impossible to defeat an ignorant woman in an argument.-dockbumper5, truck driver and fiscal conservative(1960-present)
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Annie Ultimate Joined: 02 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17542	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:45pm
	*Originally posted by dockbumper5* In an attempt to answer Annie.....Bush grew the size of govt/spent recklessly, so has Obama. This Dem Congress is guilty of the same, just like the last Rep. Congress.....Now why is this relevant? Because to simply just vote out Dems will not change a thing, imo. Both parties have proven identical on fiscal issues the past decade. IMO, we need to put immigration, amnesty, abortion, etc on the back burner and work on fiscal issures. Neither party is doing that. True, Bush did grow government. I find it interesting that you did not mention Clinton until I pointed out that the growing of government jobs began with Clinton and not Bush. Before you jump and accuse me of being a partisan hack again, I say that because you limited your finger pointing to Bush. Note that I never denied that Bush grew government. I said that the situation was entirely different economically then and bares little to no semblance to now. It appears you took this as an excuse for Bush, which it was not, and that making such a statement painted me a a partisan hack. So be it. Too bad it took all the prodding for you to provide your reasons for "Bush did it". I do not agree with all your logic but at least you finally gave your thoughts as to why you thought your accusation was pertinent to the discussion.
	“If you don’t know where you are going, any road will get you there.” ― Lewis Carroll
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2510	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:45pm
	*Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* In an attempt to answer Annie.....Bush grew the size of govt/spent recklessly, so has Obama. This Dem Congress is guilty of the same, just like the last Rep. Congress.....Now why is this relevant? Because to simply just vote out Dems will not change a thing, imo. Both parties have proven identical on fiscal issues the past decade. IMO, we need to put immigration, amnesty, abortion, etc on the back burner and work on fiscal issures. Neither party is doing that. If you follow national politics then you would realize your statement is a fallacy. There is a reason many have been attracted to the Tea Parties’ fiscal concerns. Because of grass root activists like this, a change is taking place in much of the Republican party, and eventually if successful, in some of the Democrat party as well. Unfortunately for you, you’re still stuck in 06 and have failed to see this. If the Tea Party is concerned about fiscal issues, why are they backing Hayworth? McCain, along with Coburn, are the most fiscally conservative Senators that have ever served. McCain was against Prescritption Drugs for Seniors(because it was unfunded and added to the national debt)while Hayworth supported it...... It’s my understanding they didn’t back Hayworth. And the Tea Party is not one group acting in concert. I am saying the Tea Party is backing Hayworth right now, and is trying to defeat McCain.........If you know something different, please enlighten me.
	It is impossible to defeat an ignorant woman in an argument.-dockbumper5, truck driver and fiscal conservative(1960-present)
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boomerjake Big League Joined: 22 April 2009 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 4303	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:46pm
	If you're going to make statements of absolute you should really know the facts. Tea parties hold out on J.D. Hayworth By ANDY BARR \| 3/1/10 5:05 PM EDT The leaders of Arizona’s four largest tea parties announced Monday they’re not endorsing in the state’s Senate race, a blow to the movement’s supposed darling, former Republican Rep. J.D. Hayworth. Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/33711.html#ixzz0nGqac0JL
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2510	Posted: 07 May 2010 at 1:47pm
	*Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* In an attempt to answer Annie.....Bush grew the size of govt/spent recklessly, so has Obama. This Dem Congress is guilty of the same, just like the last Rep. Congress.....Now why is this relevant? Because to simply just vote out Dems will not change a thing, imo. Both parties have proven identical on fiscal issues the past decade. IMO, we need to put immigration, amnesty, abortion, etc on the back burner and work on fiscal issures. Neither party is doing that. True, Bush did grow government. I find it interesting that you did not mention Clinton until I pointed out that the growing of government jobs began with Clinton and not Bush. Before you jump and accuse me of being a partisan hack again, I say that because you limited your finger pointing to Bush. Note that I never denied that Bush grew government. I said that the situation was entirely different economically then and bares little to no semblance to now. It appears you took this as an excuse for Bush, which it was not, and that making such a statement painted me a a partisan hack. So be it. Too bad it took all the prodding for you to provide your reasons for "Bush did it". I do not agree with all your logic but at least you finally gave your thoughts as to why you thought your accusation was pertinent to the discussion. I did not mention Clinton, but I have no problem with you mentioning him........The question that needs to be answered is why do you have a problem with me mentioning Bush....
	It is impossible to defeat an ignorant woman in an argument.-dockbumper5, truck driver and fiscal conservative(1960-present)
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