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Posted: 17 July 2010 at 5:28pm

31% of the players that made the cut are Americans. 17% of the Americans, or 1 in 6, are former OSU golfers.

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Posted: 17 July 2010 at 11:14pm

This makes sense to me. If you played at OSU, you were/are a great golfer. Also, they had to get used to playing in major wind around here. Good combination for playing a Major in England.

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 2:07am

Unfortunately the OU golfer that has wen more money than all those guys so far this year is fighting injuries. Watching Kim & Fowler is going to be a lot of fun for a long time though I think.

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 8:15am

Originally posted by SoonerC

Unfortunately the OU golfer that has wen more money than all those guys so far this year is fighting injuries. Watching Kim & Fowler is going to be a lot of fun for a long time though I think.

Yes it will, and with Tiger being just another golfer now, the majors are there for the taking. Just look at what is happening in the British Open.....

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 11:54am

Ricky had a 79 on day 1. He followed that with a 67, 69 and another 67 today.

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:07pm

Originally posted by soonercntry1

This makes sense to me. If you played at OSU, you were/are a great golfer. Also, they had to get used to playing in major wind around here. Good combination for playing a Major in England.

Playing a links course is unlike virtually all courses in Oklahoma.

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:12pm

Originally posted by Annie

Playing a links course is unlike virtually all courses in Oklahoma.

You think?

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:15pm

I chuckle when they whine about 25mph winds.. With gusts to 35.
Calm day IMO

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:15pm

wind is wind.....

hefner No. 42/41...got beat bad

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:41pm

Originally posted by SoonerC

Originally posted by Annie

Playing a links course is unlike virtually all courses in Oklahoma.

You think?

What do you think?

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:43pm

Originally posted by I M GEORGE

wind is wind.....

Terrain is terrain...............................

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:56pm

Originally posted by BoomerFNSooner2

I chuckle when they whine about 25mph winds.. With gusts to 35.
Calm day IMO

Did you watch? It was not about the speed of the wind. It was about the wind moving the ball so that it could not be addressed. Remember, there is nothing to break the wind on a links course like there is at, say, Oak Tree or Southern Hills. It was NOT just the wind. It was the combo of the terrain and the wind.

There have been far worse weather conditions during a British Open where there was no suspension of play. Why? The ball was not being moved by the wind/weather.

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:59pm

Rory McIlroy has to be kicking himself. He probably had a great chance to win it if not for the 2nd day's 80 score. yikes. Congrats to Oosthuizen.

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 1:12pm

Originally posted by Annie

Originally posted by BoomerFNSooner2

I chuckle when they whine about 25mph winds.. With gusts to 35.
Calm day IMO

we go thru this every year......does the wind ever blow the ball on the greens in Oklahoma?? How many trees are on Rose Creek??

hefner No. 42/41...got beat bad

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 1:23pm

Originally posted by I M GEORGE

Originally posted by Annie

Originally posted by BoomerFNSooner2

I chuckle when they whine about 25mph winds.. With gusts to 35.
Calm day IMO

Did you watch? It was not about the speed of the wind. It was about the wind moving the ball so that it could not be addressed. Remember, there is nothing to break the wind on a links course like there is at, say, Oak Tree or Southern Hills. It was NOT just the wind. It was the combo of the terrain and the wind.

There have been far worse weather conditions during a British Open where there was no suspension of play. Why? The ball was not being moved by the wind/weather.

we go thru this every year......does the wind ever blow the ball on the greens in Oklahoma?? How many trees are on Rose Creek??

How many majors are held at Oklahoma courses other than Oak Tree or Southern Hills? How many courses in Oklahoma are best played with low shots and bump and runs? How many courses in Oklahoma have the climatic impact of being on the oceans/seas?

Playing in Oklahoma definitely has its challenges. Yes there is wind. I doubt that any of you scratch golfers will be in the position to have the money on the line when putting for playing the week-end or flying home. Are you telling me that you would not want the round suspended until you could address your ball without fear of the wind forcing you to add a stroke to your score?

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 1:40pm

Originally posted by Annie

Originally posted by SoonerC

Originally posted by Annie

Playing a links course is unlike virtually all courses in Oklahoma.

You think?

What do you think?

I think saying that St Andrews is unlike any course in Oklahoma is like saying water is wet.

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 1:42pm

you have went from talking about wind to what my (not scratch ) emotions would be like on tour!!!!

my bad but i cant answer that??!!

hefner No. 42/41...got beat bad

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 2:19pm

Originally posted by I M GEORGE

you have went from talking about wind to what my (not scratch ) emotions would be like on tour!!!!

my bad but i cant answer that??!!

My answer was not totally directed at you. I through the 'tour' bit in for BFNS who was smugly talking about the players whining. (I don't know who he heard. I heard the announcers talking about it but not players. But, then, BFNS has been known to take some liberties when making his snide remarks.)

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 2:20pm

Originally posted by Annie

Playing a links course is unlike virtually all courses in Oklahoma.

I agree that a links style course is different than what we have around here, except for maybe Rose Creek and Belmar. However, learning how to hit shots in gusty wind is more important to your ability to execute than the style of the course. Links or not, if you keep it in the fairway and hit greens in regulation you will probably post a good score.

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Posted: 18 July 2010 at 2:29pm

Originally posted by soonercntry1

Originally posted by Annie

Playing a links course is unlike virtually all courses in Oklahoma.

The need to know how to hit in the wind is key for ALL pros. As to terrain, do we have a course by an open sea/ocean? Links are courses by the sea. Inland courses on the British Isles are not links courses.

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Guests Guest	Topic: Some British Open Stats Posted: 17 July 2010 at 5:28pm
	31% of the players that made the cut are Americans. 17% of the Americans, or 1 in 6, are former OSU golfers.
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soonercntry1 Big League Joined: 10 January 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 4697	Posted: 17 July 2010 at 11:14pm
	This makes sense to me. If you played at OSU, you were/are a great golfer. Also, they had to get used to playing in major wind around here. Good combination for playing a Major in England.
	Buy American and support the U.S. Economy..... Buy Toyota!
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SoonerC Ultimate Joined: 22 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 13325	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 2:07am
	Unfortunately the OU golfer that has wen more money than all those guys so far this year is fighting injuries. Watching Kim & Fowler is going to be a lot of fun for a long time though I think.
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2510	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 8:15am
	*Originally posted by SoonerC* Unfortunately the OU golfer that has wen more money than all those guys so far this year is fighting injuries. Watching Kim & Fowler is going to be a lot of fun for a long time though I think. Yes it will, and with Tiger being just another golfer now, the majors are there for the taking. Just look at what is happening in the British Open.....
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Guests Guest	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 11:54am
	Ricky had a 79 on day 1. He followed that with a 67, 69 and another 67 today.
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Annie Ultimate Joined: 02 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17542	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:07pm
	*Originally posted by soonercntry1* This makes sense to me. If you played at OSU, you were/are a great golfer. Also, they had to get used to playing in major wind around here. Good combination for playing a Major in England. Playing a links course is unlike virtually all courses in Oklahoma.
	“If you don’t know where you are going, any road will get you there.” ― Lewis Carroll
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SoonerC Ultimate Joined: 22 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 13325	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:12pm
	*Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by soonercntry1* This makes sense to me. If you played at OSU, you were/are a great golfer. Also, they had to get used to playing in major wind around here. Good combination for playing a Major in England. Playing a links course is unlike virtually all courses in Oklahoma. You think?
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BoomerFNSooner2 Big League Joined: 27 July 2009 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 3209	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:15pm
	I chuckle when they whine about 25mph winds.. With gusts to 35. Calm day IMO
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I M GEORGE Big League Joined: 18 April 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8685	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:15pm
	wind is wind.....
	hefner No. 42/41...got beat bad
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Annie Ultimate Joined: 02 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17542	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:41pm
	*Originally posted by SoonerC* *Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by soonercntry1* This makes sense to me. If you played at OSU, you were/are a great golfer. Also, they had to get used to playing in major wind around here. Good combination for playing a Major in England. Playing a links course is unlike virtually all courses in Oklahoma. You think? What do you think?
	“If you don’t know where you are going, any road will get you there.” ― Lewis Carroll
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Annie Ultimate Joined: 02 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17542	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:43pm
	*Originally posted by I M GEORGE* wind is wind..... Terrain is terrain...............................
	“If you don’t know where you are going, any road will get you there.” ― Lewis Carroll
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Annie Ultimate Joined: 02 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17542	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:56pm
	*Originally posted by BoomerFNSooner2* I chuckle when they whine about 25mph winds.. With gusts to 35. Calm day IMO Did you watch? It was not about the speed of the wind. It was about the wind moving the ball so that it could not be addressed. Remember, there is nothing to break the wind on a links course like there is at, say, Oak Tree or Southern Hills. It was NOT just the wind. It was the combo of the terrain and the wind. There have been far worse weather conditions during a British Open where there was no suspension of play. Why? The ball was not being moved by the wind/weather.
	“If you don’t know where you are going, any road will get you there.” ― Lewis Carroll
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roy4pokes Ultimate Joined: 10 August 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 14171	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 12:59pm
	Rory McIlroy has to be kicking himself. He probably had a great chance to win it if not for the 2nd day's 80 score. yikes. Congrats to Oosthuizen.
	"Life's tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne Go green - recycle Congress in 2010
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I M GEORGE Big League Joined: 18 April 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8685	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 1:12pm
	*Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by BoomerFNSooner2* I chuckle when they whine about 25mph winds.. With gusts to 35. Calm day IMO Did you watch? It was not about the speed of the wind. It was about the wind moving the ball so that it could not be addressed. Remember, there is nothing to break the wind on a links course like there is at, say, Oak Tree or Southern Hills. It was NOT just the wind. It was the combo of the terrain and the wind. There have been far worse weather conditions during a British Open where there was no suspension of play. Why? The ball was not being moved by the wind/weather. we go thru this every year......does the wind ever blow the ball on the greens in Oklahoma?? How many trees are on Rose Creek??
	hefner No. 42/41...got beat bad
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Annie Ultimate Joined: 02 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17542	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 1:23pm
	*Originally posted by I M GEORGE* *Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by BoomerFNSooner2* I chuckle when they whine about 25mph winds.. With gusts to 35. Calm day IMO Did you watch? It was not about the speed of the wind. It was about the wind moving the ball so that it could not be addressed. Remember, there is nothing to break the wind on a links course like there is at, say, Oak Tree or Southern Hills. It was NOT just the wind. It was the combo of the terrain and the wind. There have been far worse weather conditions during a British Open where there was no suspension of play. Why? The ball was not being moved by the wind/weather. we go thru this every year......does the wind ever blow the ball on the greens in Oklahoma?? How many trees are on Rose Creek?? How many majors are held at Oklahoma courses other than Oak Tree or Southern Hills? How many courses in Oklahoma are best played with low shots and bump and runs? How many courses in Oklahoma have the climatic impact of being on the oceans/seas? Playing in Oklahoma definitely has its challenges. Yes there is wind. I doubt that any of you scratch golfers will be in the position to have the money on the line when putting for playing the week-end or flying home. Are you telling me that you would not want the round suspended until you could address your ball without fear of the wind forcing you to add a stroke to your score?
	“If you don’t know where you are going, any road will get you there.” ― Lewis Carroll
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SoonerC Ultimate Joined: 22 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 13325	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 1:40pm
	*Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by SoonerC* *Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by soonercntry1* This makes sense to me. If you played at OSU, you were/are a great golfer. Also, they had to get used to playing in major wind around here. Good combination for playing a Major in England. Playing a links course is unlike virtually all courses in Oklahoma. You think? What do you think? I think saying that St Andrews is unlike any course in Oklahoma is like saying water is wet.
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I M GEORGE Big League Joined: 18 April 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8685	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 1:42pm
	you have went from talking about wind to what my (not scratch ) emotions would be like on tour!!!! my bad but i cant answer that??!!
	hefner No. 42/41...got beat bad
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Annie Ultimate Joined: 02 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17542	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 2:19pm
	*Originally posted by I M GEORGE* you have went from talking about wind to what my (not scratch ) emotions would be like on tour!!!! my bad but i cant answer that??!! My answer was not totally directed at you. I through the 'tour' bit in for BFNS who was smugly talking about the players whining. (I don't know who he heard. I heard the announcers talking about it but not players. But, then, BFNS has been known to take some liberties when making his snide remarks.)
	“If you don’t know where you are going, any road will get you there.” ― Lewis Carroll
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soonercntry1 Big League Joined: 10 January 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 4697	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 2:20pm
	*Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by soonercntry1* This makes sense to me. If you played at OSU, you were/are a great golfer. Also, they had to get used to playing in major wind around here. Good combination for playing a Major in England. Playing a links course is unlike virtually all courses in Oklahoma. I agree that a links style course is different than what we have around here, except for maybe Rose Creek and Belmar. However, learning how to hit shots in gusty wind is more important to your ability to execute than the style of the course. Links or not, if you keep it in the fairway and hit greens in regulation you will probably post a good score.
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Annie Ultimate Joined: 02 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17542	Posted: 18 July 2010 at 2:29pm
	*Originally posted by soonercntry1* *Originally posted by Annie* *Originally posted by soonercntry1* This makes sense to me. If you played at OSU, you were/are a great golfer. Also, they had to get used to playing in major wind around here. Good combination for playing a Major in England. Playing a links course is unlike virtually all courses in Oklahoma. I agree that a links style course is different than what we have around here, except for maybe Rose Creek and Belmar. However, learning how to hit shots in gusty wind is more important to your ability to execute than the style of the course. Links or not, if you keep it in the fairway and hit greens in regulation you will probably post a good score. The need to know how to hit in the wind is key for ALL pros. As to terrain, do we have a course by an open sea/ocean? Links are courses by the sea. Inland courses on the British Isles are not links courses.
	“If you don’t know where you are going, any road will get you there.” ― Lewis Carroll
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