Jim Traber Forum: The price of 40miles with no gas: 41,000

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Originally posted by boomerjake

Originally posted by dockbumper5

Originally posted by boomerjake

Originally posted by dockbumper5

Originally posted by OKdiver

Originally posted by dockbumper5

Originally posted by boomerjake

It’s not partisan. If George Bush would have been for the bailout the way this was orchestrated then I would not feel any different about not buying a government motors vehicle.    ????Bush was the first to loan GM and Chrysler money from TARP............Anyway, I will but the vehicle I choose. Brand does not matter to me. 

Big difference between loaning and buying.   Also, Bush did not close a bunch of dealerships based on ownership's race, sex and which political party or candidate was given donations.    That is all starting to come out by the way.
 Here we go again......Let's see what comes out by the way(on all this race/sex/political party fodder). Who can say Bush would not have done EXACTLY what Obama did, if his term hadn't expired. I certainly can't say he would or would not have. The bailout of GM and Chrysler had already started when Obama took office. Just deal with it. 

Who cares when it started? Deal with that!
 OK, who cares who continued it? Deal with that! 

Apparently you care who started it. Don’t pull one of your dense acts! You’re the one who suggested that anyone against buying a government motors vehicle is only doing so for partisan reasons. It’s already been stated on this forum that no one cares who started it, or when it was started. So that just doesn’t fly.  I said OK. And that is fine with me......I dealt with it, you need to deal with it too........Plain english here....I don't care who started or who continued the bailout of GM and Chrysler. 

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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2592	Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:29am
	*Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by OKdiver* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* It’s not partisan. If George Bush would have been for the bailout the way this was orchestrated then I would not feel any different about not buying a government motors vehicle. ????Bush was the first to loan GM and Chrysler money from TARP............Anyway, I will but the vehicle I choose. Brand does not matter to me. Big difference between loaning and buying. Also, Bush did not close a bunch of dealerships based on ownership's race, sex and which political party or candidate was given donations. That is all starting to come out by the way. Here we go again......Let's see what comes out by the way(on all this race/sex/political party fodder). Who can say Bush would not have done EXACTLY what Obama did, if his term hadn't expired. I certainly can't say he would or would not have. The bailout of GM and Chrysler had already started when Obama took office. Just deal with it. Who cares when it started? Deal with that! OK, who cares who continued it? Deal with that! Apparently you care who started it. Don’t pull one of your dense acts! You’re the one who suggested that anyone against buying a government motors vehicle is only doing so for partisan reasons. It’s already been stated on this forum that no one cares who started it, or when it was started. So that just doesn’t fly. I said OK. And that is fine with me......I dealt with it, you need to deal with it too........Plain english here....I don't care who started or who continued the bailout of GM and Chrysler.
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boomerjake Big League Joined: 22 April 2009 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 4345	Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:30am
	*Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by Annie* How much fossil fuel required to build the vehicle? How many people can plan a vacation around the recharges (if they can find them)? The volt has its own generator that runs off gasoline. Just like a regular car, just fill up the generator tank and keep on going..... Yeah, just keep on going!
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boomerjake Big League Joined: 22 April 2009 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 4345	Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:31am
	*Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by OKdiver* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* It’s not partisan. If George Bush would have been for the bailout the way this was orchestrated then I would not feel any different about not buying a government motors vehicle. ????Bush was the first to loan GM and Chrysler money from TARP............Anyway, I will but the vehicle I choose. Brand does not matter to me. Big difference between loaning and buying. Also, Bush did not close a bunch of dealerships based on ownership's race, sex and which political party or candidate was given donations. That is all starting to come out by the way. Here we go again......Let's see what comes out by the way(on all this race/sex/political party fodder). Who can say Bush would not have done EXACTLY what Obama did, if his term hadn't expired. I certainly can't say he would or would not have. The bailout of GM and Chrysler had already started when Obama took office. Just deal with it. Who cares when it started? Deal with that! OK, who cares who continued it? Deal with that! Apparently you care who started it. Don’t pull one of your dense acts! You’re the one who suggested that anyone against buying a government motors vehicle is only doing so for partisan reasons. It’s already been stated on this forum that no one cares who started it, or when it was started. So that just doesn’t fly. I said OK. And that is fine with me......I dealt with it, you need to deal with it too........Plain english here....I don't care who started or who continued the bailout of GM and Chrysler. LOL.... If you don't care then why did you state it??? I often state things I don't care about
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2592	Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:33am
	*Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by OKdiver* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* It’s not partisan. If George Bush would have been for the bailout the way this was orchestrated then I would not feel any different about not buying a government motors vehicle. ????Bush was the first to loan GM and Chrysler money from TARP............Anyway, I will but the vehicle I choose. Brand does not matter to me. Big difference between loaning and buying. Also, Bush did not close a bunch of dealerships based on ownership's race, sex and which political party or candidate was given donations. That is all starting to come out by the way. Here we go again......Let's see what comes out by the way(on all this race/sex/political party fodder). Who can say Bush would not have done EXACTLY what Obama did, if his term hadn't expired. I certainly can't say he would or would not have. The bailout of GM and Chrysler had already started when Obama took office. Just deal with it. Who cares when it started? Deal with that! OK, who cares who continued it? Deal with that! Apparently you care who started it. Don’t pull one of your dense acts! You’re the one who suggested that anyone against buying a government motors vehicle is only doing so for partisan reasons. It’s already been stated on this forum that no one cares who started it, or when it was started. So that just doesn’t fly. I said OK. And that is fine with me......I dealt with it, you need to deal with it too........Plain english here....I don't care who started or who continued the bailout of GM and Chrysler. LOL.... If you don't care then why did you state it??? I often state things I don't care about LOL, why don't you state you don't care who continued it? You have stated you don't care who started it......
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I M GEORGE Big League Joined: 18 April 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 8691	Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:34am
	i bet 5 has the record for most "quoted quotes" dont laugh jake youre probably 2nd oops!! Edited by I M GEORGE - 28 July 2010 at 10:38am
	hefner No. 42/41...got beat bad
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2592	Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:35am
	*Originally posted by I M GEORGE* i bet 5 has the record for most "qouted qoutes" dont laugh jake youre probably 2nd
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boomerjake Big League Joined: 22 April 2009 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 4345	Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:36am
	*Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by OKdiver* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* It’s not partisan. If George Bush would have been for the bailout the way this was orchestrated then I would not feel any different about not buying a government motors vehicle. ????Bush was the first to loan GM and Chrysler money from TARP............Anyway, I will but the vehicle I choose. Brand does not matter to me. Big difference between loaning and buying. Also, Bush did not close a bunch of dealerships based on ownership's race, sex and which political party or candidate was given donations. That is all starting to come out by the way. Here we go again......Let's see what comes out by the way(on all this race/sex/political party fodder). Who can say Bush would not have done EXACTLY what Obama did, if his term hadn't expired. I certainly can't say he would or would not have. The bailout of GM and Chrysler had already started when Obama took office. Just deal with it. Who cares when it started? Deal with that! OK, who cares who continued it? Deal with that! Apparently you care who started it. Don’t pull one of your dense acts! You’re the one who suggested that anyone against buying a government motors vehicle is only doing so for partisan reasons. It’s already been stated on this forum that no one cares who started it, or when it was started. So that just doesn’t fly. I said OK. And that is fine with me......I dealt with it, you need to deal with it too........Plain english here....I don't care who started or who continued the bailout of GM and Chrysler. LOL.... If you don't care then why did you state it??? I often state things I don't care about LOL, why don't you state you don't care who continued it? You have stated you don't care who started it...... Why don’t you logout, take you medicine and rest a bit, then come back and maybe you’ll make more sense.
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Annie Ultimate Joined: 02 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17583	Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:40am
	ABORT! ABORT! ABORT!
	“If you don’t know where you are going, any road will get you there.” ― Lewis Carroll
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2592	Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:41am
	*Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by OKdiver* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* It’s not partisan. If George Bush would have been for the bailout the way this was orchestrated then I would not feel any different about not buying a government motors vehicle. ????Bush was the first to loan GM and Chrysler money from TARP............Anyway, I will but the vehicle I choose. Brand does not matter to me. Big difference between loaning and buying. Also, Bush did not close a bunch of dealerships based on ownership's race, sex and which political party or candidate was given donations. That is all starting to come out by the way. Here we go again......Let's see what comes out by the way(on all this race/sex/political party fodder). Who can say Bush would not have done EXACTLY what Obama did, if his term hadn't expired. I certainly can't say he would or would not have. The bailout of GM and Chrysler had already started when Obama took office. Just deal with it. Who cares when it started? Deal with that! OK, who cares who continued it? Deal with that! Apparently you care who started it. Don’t pull one of your dense acts! You’re the one who suggested that anyone against buying a government motors vehicle is only doing so for partisan reasons. It’s already been stated on this forum that no one cares who started it, or when it was started. So that just doesn’t fly. I said OK. And that is fine with me......I dealt with it, you need to deal with it too........Plain english here....I don't care who started or who continued the bailout of GM and Chrysler. LOL.... If you don't care then why did you state it??? I often state things I don't care about LOL, why don't you state you don't care who continued it? You have stated you don't care who started it...... Why don’t you logout, take you medicine and rest a bit, then come back and maybe you’ll make more sense. Can't force yourself to say it, huh???? I am going to logout and go haul a couple of loads today. Need to make a quick $1000, know what I mean???
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OKdiver Big Daddy Joined: 20 January 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1871	Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:46am
	*Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by OKdiver* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* It’s not partisan. If George Bush would have been for the bailout the way this was orchestrated then I would not feel any different about not buying a government motors vehicle. ????Bush was the first to loan GM and Chrysler money from TARP............Anyway, I will but the vehicle I choose. Brand does not matter to me. Big difference between loaning and buying. Also, Bush did not close a bunch of dealerships based on ownership's race, sex and which political party or candidate was given donations. That is all starting to come out by the way. Here we go again......Let's see what comes out by the way(on all this race/sex/political party fodder). Who can say Bush would not have done EXACTLY what Obama did, if his term hadn't expired. I certainly can't say he would or would not have. The bailout of GM and Chrysler had already started when Obama took office. Just deal with it. Who cares when it started? Deal with that! OK, who cares who continued it? Deal with that! Apparently you care who started it. Don’t pull one of your dense acts! You’re the one who suggested that anyone against buying a government motors vehicle is only doing so for partisan reasons. It’s already been stated on this forum that no one cares who started it, or when it was started. So that just doesn’t fly. I said OK. And that is fine with me......I dealt with it, you need to deal with it too........Plain english here....I don't care who started or who continued the bailout of GM and Chrysler. LOL.... If you don't care then why did you state it??? I often state things I don't care about LOL, why don't you state you don't care who continued it? You have stated you don't care who started it...... Why don’t you logout, take you medicine and rest a bit, then come back and maybe you’ll make more sense. Can't force yourself to say it, huh???? I am going to logout and go haul a couple of loads today. Need to make a quick $1000, know what I mean??? Chicken manure again Dock?
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boomerjake Big League Joined: 22 April 2009 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 4345	Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:47am
	*Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by OKdiver* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* It’s not partisan. If George Bush would have been for the bailout the way this was orchestrated then I would not feel any different about not buying a government motors vehicle. ????Bush was the first to loan GM and Chrysler money from TARP............Anyway, I will but the vehicle I choose. Brand does not matter to me. Big difference between loaning and buying. Also, Bush did not close a bunch of dealerships based on ownership's race, sex and which political party or candidate was given donations. That is all starting to come out by the way. Here we go again......Let's see what comes out by the way(on all this race/sex/political party fodder). Who can say Bush would not have done EXACTLY what Obama did, if his term hadn't expired. I certainly can't say he would or would not have. The bailout of GM and Chrysler had already started when Obama took office. Just deal with it. Who cares when it started? Deal with that! OK, who cares who continued it? Deal with that! Apparently you care who started it. Don’t pull one of your dense acts! You’re the one who suggested that anyone against buying a government motors vehicle is only doing so for partisan reasons. It’s already been stated on this forum that no one cares who started it, or when it was started. So that just doesn’t fly. I said OK. And that is fine with me......I dealt with it, you need to deal with it too........Plain english here....I don't care who started or who continued the bailout of GM and Chrysler. LOL.... If you don't care then why did you state it??? I often state things I don't care about LOL, why don't you state you don't care who continued it? You have stated you don't care who started it...... Why don’t you logout, take you medicine and rest a bit, then come back and maybe you’ll make more sense. Can't force yourself to say it, huh???? I am going to logout and go haul a couple of loads today. Need to make a quick $1000, know what I mean??? To say what? I wasn’t for starting or continuing it! Can you get that through your thick head? Many companies have gone through bankruptcy to emerge on the other side leaner and more efficient. In your warped world it’s all a partisan conspiracy isn’t it? Take partisan out of your vocabulary and your ability to communicate is left to grunts and hand motions.
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2592	Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:48am
	*Originally posted by OKdiver* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by OKdiver* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* It’s not partisan. If George Bush would have been for the bailout the way this was orchestrated then I would not feel any different about not buying a government motors vehicle. ????Bush was the first to loan GM and Chrysler money from TARP............Anyway, I will but the vehicle I choose. Brand does not matter to me. Big difference between loaning and buying. Also, Bush did not close a bunch of dealerships based on ownership's race, sex and which political party or candidate was given donations. That is all starting to come out by the way. Here we go again......Let's see what comes out by the way(on all this race/sex/political party fodder). Who can say Bush would not have done EXACTLY what Obama did, if his term hadn't expired. I certainly can't say he would or would not have. The bailout of GM and Chrysler had already started when Obama took office. Just deal with it. Who cares when it started? Deal with that! OK, who cares who continued it? Deal with that! Apparently you care who started it. Don’t pull one of your dense acts! You’re the one who suggested that anyone against buying a government motors vehicle is only doing so for partisan reasons. It’s already been stated on this forum that no one cares who started it, or when it was started. So that just doesn’t fly. I said OK. And that is fine with me......I dealt with it, you need to deal with it too........Plain english here....I don't care who started or who continued the bailout of GM and Chrysler. LOL.... If you don't care then why did you state it??? I often state things I don't care about LOL, why don't you state you don't care who continued it? You have stated you don't care who started it...... Why don’t you logout, take you medicine and rest a bit, then come back and maybe you’ll make more sense. Can't force yourself to say it, huh???? I am going to logout and go haul a couple of loads today. Need to make a quick $1000, know what I mean??? Chicken manure again Dock? Groceries and frozen food my friend..... Edited by dockbumper5 - 28 July 2010 at 10:48am
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2592	Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:52am
	*Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by OKdiver* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* It’s not partisan. If George Bush would have been for the bailout the way this was orchestrated then I would not feel any different about not buying a government motors vehicle. ????Bush was the first to loan GM and Chrysler money from TARP............Anyway, I will but the vehicle I choose. Brand does not matter to me. Big difference between loaning and buying. Also, Bush did not close a bunch of dealerships based on ownership's race, sex and which political party or candidate was given donations. That is all starting to come out by the way. Here we go again......Let's see what comes out by the way(on all this race/sex/political party fodder). Who can say Bush would not have done EXACTLY what Obama did, if his term hadn't expired. I certainly can't say he would or would not have. The bailout of GM and Chrysler had already started when Obama took office. Just deal with it. Who cares when it started? Deal with that! OK, who cares who continued it? Deal with that! Apparently you care who started it. Don’t pull one of your dense acts! You’re the one who suggested that anyone against buying a government motors vehicle is only doing so for partisan reasons. It’s already been stated on this forum that no one cares who started it, or when it was started. So that just doesn’t fly. I said OK. And that is fine with me......I dealt with it, you need to deal with it too........Plain english here....I don't care who started or who continued the bailout of GM and Chrysler. LOL.... If you don't care then why did you state it??? I often state things I don't care about LOL, why don't you state you don't care who continued it? You have stated you don't care who started it...... Why don’t you logout, take you medicine and rest a bit, then come back and maybe you’ll make more sense. Can't force yourself to say it, huh???? I am going to logout and go haul a couple of loads today. Need to make a quick $1000, know what I mean??? To say what? I wasn’t for starting or continuing it! Can you get that through your thick head? Many companies have gone through bankruptcy to emerge on the other side leaner and more efficient. In your warped world it’s all a partisan conspiracy isn’t it? Take partisan out of your vocabulary and your ability to communicate is left to grunts and hand motions. That is close enough. You don't care that Bush started the bailout, and you don't care that Obama continued it. You were against both. Grunts/moans/hand motions......That is pretty accurate. I am giving you a hand motion right now.......have a good day, delivery times are pressing
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boomerjake Big League Joined: 22 April 2009 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 4345	Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:55am
	*Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by OKdiver* *Originally posted by dockbumper5* *Originally posted by boomerjake* It’s not partisan. If George Bush would have been for the bailout the way this was orchestrated then I would not feel any different about not buying a government motors vehicle. ????Bush was the first to loan GM and Chrysler money from TARP............Anyway, I will but the vehicle I choose. Brand does not matter to me. Big difference between loaning and buying. Also, Bush did not close a bunch of dealerships based on ownership's race, sex and which political party or candidate was given donations. That is all starting to come out by the way. Here we go again......Let's see what comes out by the way(on all this race/sex/political party fodder). Who can say Bush would not have done EXACTLY what Obama did, if his term hadn't expired. I certainly can't say he would or would not have. The bailout of GM and Chrysler had already started when Obama took office. Just deal with it. Who cares when it started? Deal with that! OK, who cares who continued it? Deal with that! Apparently you care who started it. Don’t pull one of your dense acts! You’re the one who suggested that anyone against buying a government motors vehicle is only doing so for partisan reasons. It’s already been stated on this forum that no one cares who started it, or when it was started. So that just doesn’t fly. I said OK. And that is fine with me......I dealt with it, you need to deal with it too........Plain english here....I don't care who started or who continued the bailout of GM and Chrysler. LOL.... If you don't care then why did you state it??? I often state things I don't care about LOL, why don't you state you don't care who continued it? You have stated you don't care who started it...... Why don’t you logout, take you medicine and rest a bit, then come back and maybe you’ll make more sense. Can't force yourself to say it, huh???? I am going to logout and go haul a couple of loads today. Need to make a quick $1000, know what I mean??? To say what? I wasn’t for starting or continuing it! Can you get that through your thick head? Many companies have gone through bankruptcy to emerge on the other side leaner and more efficient. In your warped world it’s all a partisan conspiracy isn’t it? Take partisan out of your vocabulary and your ability to communicate is left to grunts and hand motions. That is close enough. You don't care that Bush started the bailout, and you don't care that Obama continued it. You were against both. Grunts/moans/hand motions......That is pretty accurate. I am giving you a hand motion right now.......have a good day, delivery times are pressing Uh dock, that’s not a hand motion, that’s your IQ! Have a safe trip.
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bill callahan Ultimate Joined: 21 April 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 10237	Posted: 29 July 2010 at 7:49am
	back to the original topic, here is some interesting math i found Lets do some math: Chevy Volt: $41,000 (True Cost) Honda Civic: $20,000 (Average build) Difference: $21,000 Gas: $2.45/gal (in Oklahoma City) The difference in price would buy 8,571.43 gallons of gas. The Civic gets an average of 29 miles to the gallon. That’s 248,581.47 miles on the price difference. Assuming the average driver drives 12,000 miles a year, AND you only drive the Volt on the 40 mile range of it’s battery, using no gas, you’d have to own the Volt for 20.7 years to justify the price difference in gas savings. How long’s that warranty again?
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boomerjake Big League Joined: 22 April 2009 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 4345	Posted: 29 July 2010 at 8:08am
	Bill, I don't know the exact amount, but supposedly you can get a tax credit around 7 or 8k for the Volt. But I do agree with you on practicality. Also, not figured in on your price difference is the electricity it takes to recharge the battery.
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Annie Ultimate Joined: 02 May 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 17583	Posted: 29 July 2010 at 8:30am
	*Originally posted by boomerjake* Bill, I don't know the exact amount, but supposedly you can get a tax credit around 7 or 8k for the Volt. But I do agree with you on practicality. Also, not figured in on your price difference is the electricity it takes to recharge the battery. Tax credit may not apply to all and one has to wait to collect. It is not truly like money off the price of the car.
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OKdiver Big Daddy Joined: 20 January 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1871	Posted: 29 July 2010 at 8:31am
	*Originally posted by dockbumper5* Well, I don't know if the price is that out of range these days. A pickup/suv can run above 50 grand. A luxury car can do the same. If the Volt is as good as they say it is, I would certainly buy one on my next purchase. Dock I would be willing to bet there will never be a Chevy Volt sitting in your driveway. Dock your all talk.
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bill callahan Ultimate Joined: 21 April 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 10237	Posted: 29 July 2010 at 8:49am
	the leaf may be the better option of you are just city driving but the leaf requires a 220 outlet and 8 hours to charge at home. downside, after 5 years the batteries only hold 80% of the charge
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dockbumper5 Big Daddy Joined: 06 January 2010 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2592	Posted: 29 July 2010 at 9:41am
	*Originally posted by bill callahan* back to the original topic, here is some interesting math i found Lets do some math: Chevy Volt: $41,000 (True Cost) Honda Civic: $20,000 (Average build) Difference: $21,000 Gas: $2.45/gal (in Oklahoma City) The difference in price would buy 8,571.43 gallons of gas. The Civic gets an average of 29 miles to the gallon. That’s 248,581.47 miles on the price difference. Assuming the average driver drives 12,000 miles a year, AND you only drive the Volt on the 40 mile range of it’s battery, using no gas, you’d have to own the Volt for 20.7 years to justify the price difference in gas savings. How long’s that warranty again? But who believes gas will stay at 2.45 a gallon? What if it gets back to 5 bucks a gallon? Or goes to 10 bucks a gallon?
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